tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4879615387850345622.post7536266263639942757..comments2023-07-17T23:10:02.228+10:00Comments on Discombobula: Chaos TheorySuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01122659239039900398noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4879615387850345622.post-34070526953157172502011-09-25T21:17:36.558+10:002011-09-25T21:17:36.558+10:00Yes, Sue, I don't see anything as being 'd...Yes, Sue, I don't see anything as being 'destroyed', but as Life evolving in what we call the birth-death cycle. Both birth and death are merely transition points where Life takes on another form, always moving forward. And every 'birth' is the 'death' of a way of experiencing reality... And birth is a very painful thing, for both 'child' and 'mother'... and we're not separate beings anyway - that's just how it appears - but unique, glorious, totally connected expressions of Being.<br /><br />It was Arthur Eddington, who empirically demonstrated one proof of Relativity Theory, who said that, but several other physicists of that time and since have made similar comments. I saw a report recently which seemed to indicate that a large majority of scientists have no trouble reconciling their work with spiritual concepts. In many other ways too, it's all coming together, and another death/birth is happening, with the inevitable disruption of one paradigm reorganising into another, like the caterpillar and butterfly. Birth pangs and last breaths indistinguishable...<br /><br />As the Chinese say, we live in interesting times:)Harry Rileynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4879615387850345622.post-77219447382706699972011-09-25T13:17:52.213+10:002011-09-25T13:17:52.213+10:00Yeah, I wonder about that too - how does the 18 ye...Yeah, I wonder about that too - how does the 18 year old know what it feels like to really REALLY be by yourself, to be able to hear things you might be whispering to yourself. That stuff gets drowned out in the constant round of instant connectedness. What sort of a relationship with yourself are you going to be able to have in such a world? That worries me.<br /><br />Interesting thoughts. I am concerned about those things too. The individual and the collective, both as strong as each other - that's the only way it would work.susieq777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4879615387850345622.post-52120018550169405662011-09-25T12:58:55.038+10:002011-09-25T12:58:55.038+10:00It just seems like we are circling those wagons cl...It just seems like we are circling those wagons closer and closer...and there is something unsettling in that. I mean the whole internet, connectedness, big brother kinda thing...like we're all drawing TOO close to one another. Think back to when you were 18...could you even IMAGINE having a device in the palm of your hand that is connected to the greatest wealth of information that ever existed, you are able to reach anyone you know in an instant, you are simply "connected" to everyone and every thing at every moment. I am both in awe of this and somewhat wary of it. And I have know idea if you own a mobile phone or if it is one that has internet, but the reality is you *could* even if you don't. And when I think back to when I was 18, there was no way to even conceive of the internet, much less this kind of mobile capability.<br /><br /><br />And don't get me wrong, I LOVE that I am now connected to so many people like you all over the world due to this technology, and I don't necessarily have any problem with it form a paranoid perspective, but I just wonder what all this instant connectedness robs us of in our humanity? And where do we go from here? Will our great-grandchildren have brain implants that do what our mobile phone do now? How close are we to the Borg? How connected is TOO connected? Where will the individual end and the collective begin?Erin Wordhttp://profiles.google.com/erinwordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4879615387850345622.post-37031716161325281242011-09-25T12:17:04.907+10:002011-09-25T12:17:04.907+10:00"... even if chaos is a part of the process,..."... even if chaos is a part of the process, it will eventually organize." Yeah, it's hard to look at the chaos and not freak out though. <br /><br />Yeah, I worry about that too, the "circling of the wagons". We have to stay open, we just have to. So many wise people who have come before us know this, and I feel it too, and I know you do too. Instinct causes you to want to close down with fear but we have to open up instead. <br /><br />There's a life's work just there, eh :)susieq777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4879615387850345622.post-61885304090983968132011-09-25T12:14:35.809+10:002011-09-25T12:14:35.809+10:00LOVE that quote from that physicist. Awesome :)
...LOVE that quote from that physicist. Awesome :)<br /><br />I love it too, Harry. Left and right coming together again. Although it's hard to face because I think there is destruction in it, too. But many of our spiritual writings of the past couple of millennia note this too - the life/death/life cycle. Everything ends. But yet ... it feels like nothing ends ultimately. And I know that's how you feel about it too :)susieq777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4879615387850345622.post-76453420183957438782011-09-25T03:47:44.859+10:002011-09-25T03:47:44.859+10:00It seems the universe is self-organizing in the in...It seems the universe is self-organizing in the interest of preservation and evolution - even if it begins as chaos, or even if chaos is a part of the process, it will eventually organize. Even if we look at our solar system...it wasn't always this neat little system of 9 or so planets orbiting a star in an orderly fashion...it took half of forever to get there, but organize it did!<br /><br />Take a business, for instance, that begins with the best of intentions of being loosely structured and providing a lot of employee freedoms. Either the business will fail, due to some employee's own abuse of that freedom, or just due to too much lack of a centric focus or vision...or the business will succeed, but will increasingly organize in order to preserve that success and so the success can increase. Rarely is there a business venture that is able to remain loose and free-flowing AND remain successful and grow/evolve. I'm sure it's been done, but not often. The same is true with natural selection or so many other kinds of things. Even with the evolution of humanity, our instinct always has been to increasingly "circle the wagons", to increasingly gather together and organize and structure ourselves in order to preserve what we have built so far. Sometimes this worries me about the future. Erin Wordhttp://profiles.google.com/erinwordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4879615387850345622.post-61274459744567518632011-09-24T16:36:43.011+10:002011-09-24T16:36:43.011+10:00OK, Sue, this is probably my fave subject. Apart f...OK, Sue, this is probably my fave subject. Apart from cooked breakfasts, that is. I could bore a small multitude talking about it. I might just point out that the speedy neutrinos haven't been confirmed yet - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484 - but it's still pretty cool:)<br /><br />'Chaos' is really just a word we use for 'something we can't measure or pin down'. I love the infinite possibilities contained in quantum ideas, the wildness of it. A physicist once said, "...something unknown is doing something we haven't the faintest idea about..." (or words to that effect)<br /><br />What I love about this is that science - left brain - and spirit - right brain - are being reunited after a long separation. They're actually saying the same things. We're becoming unified beings, evolving consciously.<br /><br />Your idea about bringing this into the business world will require a paradigm shift, away from 'bosses and workers', with all the control and confrontation implicit in that, to one of co-operation. We need to stop telling ourselves stories about the way Life works, and let Life do its stuff:)Harry Rileynoreply@blogger.com